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's it for "the five." >> bret: should a government drowning in a sea of red ink take on more help to victims of the superstorm sandy? that is a battle right now on the floor of the house of representatives. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ good evening. i'm bret baier. right now, behind me, the house is engaged in a battle that serves as a microcosm for epic struggle of the nation's soaring debt. on one side, the president, democrats and some republicans from the region affected who want to spend billions helping storm victims. on the other, other republicans who say much of the money many this latest bill is targeted elsewhere. and that any funds should be offset with cuts. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel has update tonight from capitol hill. good evening,be mike. >> reporter: good evening. with debt and spending expected to be the major fight for much of the year, today it is disaster relief money for the northeast following sandy. that is in the middle of the struggle. >> tragedy like hurricane sandy shouldn't be used as an excuse for a grab bag of spending having nothing
government spending at the same time. they speak so confident, don't they? it's almost as if they forgot all about the spending cuts the president already gave them over a year ago. well, let's try to help them figure it out a little bit with a little visual and audio assistance. >> over the past two years i've signed into law about $1.4 trillion in spending cuts. two weeks ago, i signed into law more than $600 billion into new revenue, by making sure the wealthiest americans begin to pay their fair share. when you add the money that will save in interest payments on the debt, all together that adds up to a total of about $2.5 trillion in deficit reduction over the past two years. not counting the $400 billion already saved from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. so we've made progress. >> didn't president clinton say it was all about arithmetic? republicans can posture on the debt ceiling all they want. they know the truth. listen to john boehner two years ago. >> do you agree with administration officials and other economists that defaulting on the full faith and credit of the
by the way sends much more money to the federal government than it gets back, we just want them to be more urgent, and concerned. families that lost their houses, blocks that were destroyed. it is ridiculous that we're still debating this, especially looking at some of the congress people who are doing this. in my opinion, it is shameless, when their states were not seeing the same set of crises, they were the first to ask for resources. they should pull together, stand up, do the right thing. to me right now, at the end of a very long day i'm frustrated. i'm angry, we should all stand up for each other in times of crisis. this is so un-american in my opinion. >> newark's mayor, cory booker, gets tonight's last word. >> thank you. >> "the ed show" is up next. >>> good evening americans and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. the gop is still holding the american economy hostage, and president obama says they wouldn't collect a ransom. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a dead beat nation. >> the president dra
's elected government. so has it become the guns over people party? republican u.s. senator rand paul of kentucky talks about the president usurping the constitution. republican texas congressman steve stockman talks about impeaching the president if he takes steps to upgrade gun safety by executive order. remember sharron angle, the nevada republican senate candidate talking openly about using second amendment remedies against public officials? people used to think she was alone out there, something of an oddity. what's becoming clear is in today's gop, she's more typical than not. ed rendell was governor of pennsylvania, michael steele was chair of the republican party. gentlemen, thank you. president obama will announce his plans for gun safety tomorrow after hearing vice president biden's task force recommendations, but already criticism is mounting on the right. here is republican senator rand paul of kentucky. >> i'm against having a king. i think having a monarch is what we fought the american revolution over, and someone who wants to bypass the constitution, bypass congress, t
enforcement. keeping data on where the guns are. the government stopped keeping those records in 2004 and improving the background check system. so there's more sharing of information. joe, the other path forward would be congressional action and we're told that the president will push for an assault weapons ban and expansion of the gun sales of all kinds. even if i tried to sell you a gun privately, that would require a background check and then limit the sale of high-capacity magazines. those are some of the major issues. we expect to hear the president outline tomorrow, joe. >> jess, is this the kitchen sink or are there things they held back on? >> reporter: well, what the president is describing it as is comprehensive and these are issues that they prioritize. i expect that the white house is is going to place a serious emphasis on this high-capacity magazine issue. i'm told that in private meeting the vice president has emphasized that the high capacity magazine could make as much of a difference, more of a difference, maybe, than any other pressure. he has pointed out to multip
of the individual and the power of the state. at the time that you're talking about in 1787, the government had muskets and individuals had muskets, there was a very close correlation between the power to use violence on both sides. the other thing that you have to take into account, this is something i haven't heard in this debate, and that is if you look basically to the middle of the 19th century, 1862, the winchester henry rifle, report on that rifle that i just cited in a recent paper showed that it fired 15 rounds in less than ten seconds. the fact of the matter is that repeating technology is 150 years old. and one of the worries here, i think, for people who are on the other side of this is that when we go through this bad gun analysis that there's not really a solid boundary between the current category of assault weapons, parcularly rifles, and any other gun that is out there. >> why ban machine guns then? >> machine guns were banned in 1934 as a result of the national firearms act. >> why not ban the ar-15? >> i think you can make a coherent distinks between semi-automatic firing and
's basically saying if this government gets shut down and we're not paying our bills, it's a decision by the republican-led house of representatives. he wants the story played that way. will the press or can it objectively say that if the government shuts down, it's the republicans, simply their doing? >> when it comes to the debt ceiling if we -- there's two separate questions here. one -- and there's two separate ideas of is there something to negotiate. one is debt ceiling, and what the president is saying there's no discussion on that. on the government shutdown, there seems to be a different tone from the president. i'll get to that in a minute, but on debt ceiling, you're absolutely right. when you take that sentence, what he was trying to say, because he's not talking about having plan "b"s in his back pocket, things like minting coins, 14th amendment, which senate democrats are begging him to do. he's saying, no, if we default, he wants to make it clear then republicans will have decided not to send out social security checks, not to pay our military, not to do these things, s
of these lawsuits? >> he will pay back some. he will settle. the government settles these sort of cases. let's say he loses 50 million bucks, he still has a fair amount. he's not going to starve. more importantly, he will have his narrative back, his life as a competitive athlete back. the question is, is he going to apologize to the people he hurt along the way? we talk about this as if he's the only part of the story. in fact, he's not. the story is much bigger than just him. >> he has great pr. but, as you and i talked about before, juliette, he was a jerk to an awful lot of people. i mean, he sought to destroy people who would testify against him, who had spoken the truth. >> i think jerk is an understatement. i think a lot of those people are devastated right now. and i don't really know what to think when he's calling some of these people up to apologize. i actually spoke to a few people he has reached out to and they're like dumbfounded. they don't know whether to believe him or not. >> did you see him threaten people, reporters who reported things that he felt were inappropriate? >> well,
, but it has to have a component of the state and government to help foster it, and the line that really stuck out to me was these truths can be self-evident, but they're not self-executing. what he made was a case for why there is an important role for the government to play to basically protect our rights but also to advance us as a society whether it's on climate change, immigration reform, bank regulations, and so on down the list. it was a progressive case, but it wasn't necessarily a big government case. saying there's a mix of -- >> let's talk about some examples. i think you know them. the right wing ideas of rights is leave me alone, i got enough guns here in this house to hold you off for a couple days anyway if the government comes in with helicopters. progressives' idea of rights is a couple young people would like to go to the university of mississippi. it took the federal troops to go in there to get them in the door. a governor named george wallace tried to stop people at the door at the university of alabama, they had to be pushed aside. that's an aggressive communitarian notio
security. he did call it, fiction, that all societies' ills could be cured through government alone. but it was a prelude to wonders of the collection action by which he meant government action. on gay rights, climate change. voters op regulation, immigration reform and gun control. only saying he would support the spread of democracy worldwide, which is the george w. bush freedom agenda. by failing to swear off the use of drone attacks did he say anything likely to disappoint the base on the left. the president is a man of the left. after today, the departure from the orthodoxy should fool no one. >> bret: still, you have the republican house, that stands really in the way of what could be a very liberal agenda for the progressive agenda. and in the "state of the union" address on february 12, probably get the shopping list of things that he wants to really get done. down in the weeds. to get that done you have to reach across the aisle at some point. >> you do. unless, your purpose is to make war. fight. believe the country will stand with you. with both houses in the same, in con
: will america buy that we the people is now we the government. we will report. you will decide. >>brian: one guy i know does buy it. it looks like he'll have his media in the corner with the president of the united states. this network executive heard an article telling the president to pulverize and destroy republicans. you can go for their throats. we see him sunday with bob schieffer. we can't make this up. we'll review it only for you on "fox & friends." >>steve: it is the coldest day of the winter so far here in new york city. that is why it was a good decision to go indoors today. >>gretchen: you know even though i grew up in minnesota, i hate the cold weather. so let's pretend it is 90 degrees and go for it. >>brian: yesterday 600,000 people happy yesterday was a little warmer. it was at a minimum 800,000 shy from four years prior. the balls that followed, the parade that ensued. it's always a great day in america. >>gretchen: for me, beyonce. i see that you and i slept together again last night. >>brian: do you mean purple? >>gretchen: sure. let's do headlines. three americans were unfor
the debt limit as the government faces another shut down possibly within weeks. will that happen? >> we need to stop spending. we need to reduce spending. but it would be better if we figure out how to do that in a targeted way, rather than across the board way. look what mommy is having. mommy's having a french fry. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetable juice, with three of your daily vegetable servings in every little bottle. of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant martha: all right. there was a frightening scene after a plane blew out four tires landing. it happened at newark airport. 13 people were onboard this plane. it was a flight from rochester, new york, to newark. reports are that nobody was hurt. we'll continue to keep a look at that situation. we'll let you know if there is any information on that. looks like everybody is okay. scary situation though. bill: republican senator roy blunt said president obama was confrontational in his first term. tell
leaders that the algerian government gave them no warning before launching the rescue operation. they weren't told until it was already under way. >> i think the u.s. and other governments would have liked to have coordinated this much better with the algerians to protect the hostages in a way that, frankly, i'm not sure the algerian military either fully cared about or was able to do. >> good afternoon, everyone. >> reporter: the secretary of state clinton made it very clear who the u.s. government holds ultimately responsible. >> let's not forget, this is an act of terror. the perpetrators are the terrorists. >> reporter: tonight, that same terror group had a message for the government in algeria. they will strike again. stephanie gosk, nbc news, new york. >> leading news in this country, the awful flu season hit a new milestone today. it's now reported as widespread in 48 of our 50 states. with reported cases increasing now on the west coast. the nationwide death toll now includes 29 children. sadly, that number is up by nine since just last week. we're joined here again toni
found, the government warns there are more credible threats of kidnapping attempts. they had a lot of this information is fluid. conor powell joins us live. >> reporter: hundreds of hostages have been freed, but according to a algerian officia, they've spent the day sifting through the debris and bodies of those not as fortunate. according to a private private television station in algeria. the authorities at the gas plant found dozens of bodies, last count 25 that have been identified and found in that facility, but making it difficult to actually identify who they are is from the problem that they're so badly damaged, they can't tell if they were hostages or members of the islam i can militant terrorists that overtook and attacked that building. also making things difficult, there are reports of booby traps and mines and bombs all over the facility, so identifying and rescuing and pulling these bodies out so they can be shipped back to their home countries is going very, very slow because of awful these sort of other problems. now, algeria's government said in total, 32 islamic m
. it was forth right in setting out a vision of a kind of government that obama wants. in a way, it was, like, it was kind of a liberal version of reagan's first inaugural where he disparaged government. this was a firm defense of a word he dared to use. of clengtive action. and bill the way, that one drove them nuts at fox news. >> well, bob, the president referenced this early in his speech, very much like lincoln did. >> for history tells us that while these truths may be self evident, that they've never been self executing. that while freedom is a gift from god, it must be secured by his people here on earth. the patriots of 1776 did not fight to replace the tyranny of a king with the privileges of a few. or the rule of a mob. they gave to us a republic, a government of and by and for the people. in trusting each generation to keep safe our founding creed. >> i think i've heard this from liberals and i think it's something very important. we all accept the fact that our rights are innate, they come with our birth, they aren't given to us by a government. but, oftentimes, it has taken a go
and that this spending is more about democrats building up government programs than rebuilding from sandy. >> interesting. of course, as we all know, you can put all that money in, then when there's a disaster somewhere else, they ask for more anyway. i know this infuriated lawmakers from new york and new jersey, both democrats and republicans. know what, when it's you, you want the money. doesn't matter what your party is. there was certainly irony in that. but how have they fought back against these accusations of fat pork? >> well, vigorously would be the first word. time and again, they pointed out all the items in this amendment which would indeed help rebuild businesses. get people back into their homes, repair infrastructure and they keep insisting all this money is vital for long-term comprehensive recovery. a few times they even lit into their fellow lawmakers from other places like the gulf coast, saying in effect, we took care of your disasters, now you owe us. this did get nasty at times, i have to say, as it often does when one side calls a funding bill important and the other calls it poosr
. this is not something happening on the federal level, state and local governments are trying to come up with ways to tackle gun violence. there is a summit in the second day in the baltimore, maryland area where mayors and governors and other officials come across in needing to come up with solutions and you see states like maryland and new york taking some of these steps or considering taking the steps as well. strong push back from the nra saying they will fight any attempt to restrict their second amendment rights and raising doubts as to whether they can make their way through congress. >> thank you, dan. john berman has the other stories. >> you heard dan talking and in a few hours, new york may be one of the first state to enact tougher gun laws. the changes proposed by andrew cuomo puts new measures to place to keep guns away from the mentally ill. >> this is a surge on society. people had to live through these tragedies. tragedy after tragedy after tragedy and people are saying at what point do we get it? at what point do you say enough, we understand? no one else has to die. no more inno
on the disgrace, the fall of lance armstrong. >>> also following international stories. pakistan's government under fire on two fronts. first the supreme court ordered the arrest of the country's prime minister, number of officials over corruption allegations. the second, you've got protesters they have filled streets of the capital in islamabad. they are on the main boulevard leading up to the president's residence, the national assembly and the supreme court led by a muslim cleric, thousands of people are calling for pakistan's leaders to be thrown out in favor of a caretaker government. i want to bring in and get more from sima. if you could, explain to us why the unrest in pakistan now? why do they want the prime minister to step down? >> reporter: well, suzanne, this is an embattled government right now, seemingly out of nowhere the protests erupted the muslim cleric from canada returned to pakistan calling for a million man march and on the same day the supreme court, which had been looking into allegations of kickbacks regarding two years ago in 2011 now has ordered the government forc
the federal government right now. would you sign on to that? >> i don't agree with those numbers. we have a whole tax code that helps states like new york that have higher taxes because they can take it off of their federal income taxes. that has to be part of that, as well. i think we need to help those in need is something we should be doing but if you are not going to spend 80% of the dollars for two years what's the rush? why hurry? get to the direct needs now and that's what i think is important and that's why i offered a transparency amendment that says let's see where the money is going. fema needs reform. we should be reformed it the last two years, a decade ago, after katrina problems and hopefully we can make progress when we do that. >> thank you very much. we appreciate your time. >>> still to come, france has sent more troops in to mali to fight the war there and the united states promises to help. what is help going to mean for american troops? >>> plus an "outfront" investigation, birth tourism. paying women big money to come to the united states and give birth to new ameri
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draft pick. i think there are a lot of concerns from those people, the governing bodies of those particular awards and their trusts with regard to what he did or didn't know after he got that call on december 6th. >> greta: well, apparently, i mean, two days before you met him, but maybe i'm in the minority, but you know, i think of him, he's only 22. >> yeah. >> greta: and when, you know, this is like -- if he knew something about it, that was really stupid. if he got duped, that was pretty stupid, but he's only 22. let him come out, make a statement, by someone and move on. give him a break, he's just 22. >> greta, i'm right there with you. i've he got a daughter that's 22 years of age. i understand what can happen and anybody in our culture that's successful is what the rest of the country apparently wants to bring down. we live in a world where good is bad and bad is good. and i think that manti te'o if anything, he's guilty of naivete, but beyond that, okay, once you did know and you understood what was at stake financially, that's where the question comes into play. it's a
people -- the governing bodies of those particular awards and their trusts with regard to what he did or didn't know after he got that call on december 6. >> apparently, he knew it two days before he met him, maybe i am in the minority, but he's only 22. you know, if he knew something about it, that was really stupid. if he got duped, that was pretty stupid. but he is only 22. let him come out, make a statement. get an interview by someone and move o. give him a break. he's just 22. >> reporter: i am right there with you. i have a daughter that's 22 years of age. i understand whatt can happen. anybody in our culture who is successful is what the rest of the country wants to bring down. we live in a world where good is bad and bad is good. i think that manti te'ono, if anything is guilty of naivete. beyond that, it becomes okay, once you did be and you understood what was at stake financially, that's where the question comes into play. it's a little bit like that theory of the last investors into the bernie madoff ponzi scheme. if it was just about embarrass scpment you couldn't go the
the details. the u.s. government says it is taking the lead on the hostage situation. what is it doing to make sure the americans who are being held hostage are safe? >> erin, the first thing they did was to get some satellite surveillance over that area which means that the fbi can now monitor to some extent what is happening on the grown. the next thing the u.s. military did was upgrade the readiness sat tus of the so-called commander's in extremists force, the small lethal counter terrorism force that u.s. african command did not have when that was attacked in benghazi libya. it was stood up and allows african command to have a ready to go special operations team dedicated to hostage rescue and counter terrorism. this team we're told was already on its way to senegal to be in place for any potential missions that might come up with mali. they have been diverted in an undisclosed location. they don't have any orders to go yet. a defense official says with the number of hostages and potential hostage-takers there, it would be an extremely dangerous assault miss. they are all hoping there is s
mentioning is minorities live heavily in cities. cities are governed by democrats. democrats take away guns. i would like the law-abiding people of chicago to be able to defend themselves. >> that's not right. >> liberal policies -- >> i have to tell you. >> white people are being asailed by black people with the statistics. it's black people killing black people. >> brown people killing brown people. white people killing white people. >> but they can't defend themselves. they're not allowed to have guns. >> it's not an issue. white people aren't being victimized by -- >> you need concealed carry. >> you had me on the fact that it is -- that black people have to clean up their own communities because they are asailinsailing themselves. >> no, no, no. they need to defend themselves. >> geraldo and ann, look. america needs to clean up itself. this false sense of innocence that we have, it needs to stop. we are violent. why are we so violent? why are we so apt to kill one another? let me tell you something. i am not someone who is disinterested here. i'm someone who grew up with a father who l
cut spending. if that means shut down the government, shut down the government. >> i think in williamsburg we saw one possibility, which was paul ryan and others within the republican party saying to the caucus, we can't win this fight publicly. let the debt ceiling go because we're going to be blamed for the economic fallout. let's push that down the road kick the can down the road, as they say, and try to get some budget out of the senate and try to get some real spending cuts in the next three months. so paul ryan and others within the caucus are seeing a longer game here than is this freshman senator from texas. >> but if you ask paul ryan what he wants to do on gun control, he would say, i don't want to do anything on gun control. you've talked to moderate republicans -- >> what about registration? >> the only thing they might do is something on registration. >> background checks. >> that's it. no idea that you're banning weapons. no chance. >> registration is the worst. >> put it on tape. 5 0% chance it passes. >> good because hunters need 30 bullets
and the kidnapping is in revenge for french intervention in the country of mali. overnight the algerian government has been in talks with both united states and france, and we understand that the algerian government is now talking to tribal leaders that apparently do have ties to the terrorists. here's how the thing went down. there was a bus carrying american, british, norwegian french and japanese workers. that bus was ambushed by two armed men and two people were killed. they took off to the gas field and the total number of hostages remains unclear but reports say it ranges from 15 to 40, including 7 americans. >> they are a threat. they are a threat to our country. they are a threat to the world. and wherever they locate and try to establish a base for operations, i think that constitutes a threat that all of us have to be concerned about. >> the u.s. government is also calling this a terror attack. and this is the guy believed to be behind it all. his name is moqtar, a one-eyed veteran jihaddist with ties to al qaeda. he was apparently kicked out of the network because they say he was more i
of questions already are coming from the united states about the algerian government's tactics in the operation that could have put the hostages in jeopardy. now, we also want to let you know that right now, there's a chartered flight en route of bp employees from algeria. it is headed towards london to gatwick airport. now, that could be landing at any moment. we don't yet know if the passengers are any of the freed hostages or if there are americans on board, but as we get that information, we're going to share that with you. the brother of an irish national who escaped from captivity had a harrowing story. he spoke to cnn today and described what happened to his brother. >> yeah, but just found out recently that he'd been mered to sleep with duct tape over his mouth and his hands tied and then we find out how he got free and five out of the compound or to a different part of the compound, and there were five jeeps and the algerian army had bombeded the jeeps and out of the five jeeps, the bomb had wiped out four of them. and they had obviously lost their lives, but lucky enough for my brothe
they are vowing to government the protection act. any federal law banning semi automatic handguns or limiting size of magazines, unenforceable in texas. and federal agents who enforce gun laws, would be in violation of texas law, i'm opposed to anything the federal government would do to go back on their sworn obligation to uphold, defend the united states constitution. in wyoming federal law enforcement could be jailed for five years if they enforce gun laws. now, constitutional lawyers will argue that federal law trumps state law, but some lawmakers say there needs to be a showdown and this might be it. we're not just talking about states, but counties are pushing back, lindh county, oregon, tim mueller says he won't enforce federal gun regulation and won't allow the feds to do so in his county. listen. >> making criminals now honest citizens, that's not the path to go. if i could ask anything out of this, just get people talking about it. >> reporter: they're talking all right. in fact, we've got sheriffs in two other states, in kentucky and idaho doing exactly what sheriff mueller is doing, t
americans held by islamic militants. u.s. government officials tell cnn that may not necessarily, though, be the case. let's get straight to our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence working this story for us. chris, be what is the very latest that you're hearing? >> wolf, the latest that we're getting from u.s. officials is that some americans may have escaped but some may still be held by those hostage takers and they are still seeing signs perhaps of some intermittent fighting, suggesting that perhaps this isn't over yet. as the hostage situation stretched to a second day, u.s. officials scrambled to find a resolution and determine the state of the americans still in militant hands. >> this incident will be resolved, we hope with a minimum loss of life. but when you deal with these relentless terrorists, life is not in any way precious to them. >> americans and other western workers were on as about when multiple militants attacked. the militants took hostage at this gas plant heavily armed with rocket grenades and forced some hostages to wear explosive vests. the militants may have t
. progress does not compel us to settle centuries'-long debates about the role of government for all-time, but it does require us to act in our time. with common effort and common purpose, with passion and dedication, let us answer the call of history and carry into an uncertain future that precious light of freedom. thank you. god bless you. and may he forever bless these united states of america. >> following the president, the music, poetry and pageantry of the day, beginning with kelly clarkson. ♪ let freedom ring >> then poet richard blanco. >> the "i have a dream" we all keep dreaming. >> and beyonce. ♪ and the home of the brave ♪ the brave >> and when it was over, the president paused as if to take it in one last time. then it was back to business, a signing ceremony making cabinet nominations official. senator reid was given the pen from the president's pocket. >> that's yours. >> followed by a congressional luncheon in the capitol's statuary hall. lobster and bison and apple pie and talk of getting along. >> if you don't like the food, you can't blame it on one party o
? what are you hearing? what is the u.s. government trying to do, the military and civilian sector? >> well, right now we understand that on the diplomatic front the u.s. is letting the algerian take the leads. the algerians have voubded the compound. they are trying to negotiate with the kidnappers. we are told that in addition to this retribution that they are talking about, they are also asking for some of their prisoners who were being held by algeria and other countries to be released and sent to northern mali. they are handling that. obviously the u.s. has assets in the region and can be contemplating some type of rescue. >> elise, thank you very much. we're learning that africa is taking the lead on the military side of the crisis. let's go to our pentagon correspondent, chris lawrence. chris, if needed, where could the military help come from? >> it could come from europe and even closer. a senior defense official tells me now that defense secretary leon panetta has assured americans that the u.s. military will take all necessary and proper steps to deal with this attack. w
have the nra arguing for larger federal government putting armed people like government troops into schools as opposed to leaving did up -- it up to -- >> the nra came out with that proposal to put guards in school, everybody from the president's party went after them. durchled on them. -- dumped on them. >> that was specifically about the president, not aut democrats. the president said it. he president did not say it. it is just a lie. >> let me push back on that to play devil's advocate. if at elite schools, they have private security and armed guards, what is wrong with at public schools having armed guards? >> and why not pay for it? >> right. so if you're arguing for that massive expansion of government, what that would require, and we're going to budget -- >> it's not massive. >> it is massive. >> we're hypothetically arguing. if they wouldn't pay for the couple million dollars that was in the safe school program, they cut that down to zero, now, they are saying, we want to put armed guards in every school to override the local government and say, your local district and
. these are people saying i'm going to break the law by not enforcing federal government law. in mississippi the governor asked his state house speaker to pass a law declaring unconstitutional gun laws illegal. he also doesn't believe in the ban on high capacity magazines because criminals could still get their hands on them. he said this week, quote, if they want a 30-round clip, they're going to get it in brazil or the soviet union. self-protecting citizens won't have that right, criminals will. soviet union? how about keeping up with the class here. we got to look at this. here is david keene, who i have known for years. he's a hard conservative. here he is on "cbs this morning" talking about background checks. in this area i think people right, left, and center with any kind of rational sense know we have to do something. don't let criminals, don't let people with court-ordered mental situations where they have been ordered not to do things or been under watch to get ahold of guns. let's watch david keene on "cbs this morning." >> we want to see the proposal, but as a general proposition
by the government to gain sympathy for gun laws. in this atmosphere, how much can the obama administration really get done on gun safety. >>> also, as president obama prepares for a second term, which way is the democratic party headed? a pragmatic riddle of the road alternative to the gop or will it move sharply to the left? >>> you can't be president of the united states for four more years who ut a couple episodes like this. >> we cannot sustain -- whoops. was that my -- that's all right. all of you know who i am. >> we'll have more of the lighter moments of the first term in the "sideshow." this is "hardball," the place for politics. n for legal matter? maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like the help of an attorney. at legalzoom a legal plan attorney is available in most states with every personalized document to answer questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this
of my party who think that this is not a proper function of the government. i happen to disagree. i've lived through hurricanes and floods myself, i think this is a proper and appropriate function of the government. my difficulty with it, it is simply not paid for, we're borrowing this additional money to do this and i just think that's wrong. >> what his amendment would do would cut $17 billion in spending across the board in every sector of the government including defense, including vets. i was talking to somebody on capitol hill who said that amount of money is the entire operating budget, akin to the entire operating budget of the agriculture department. we do not think it will pass but it really gives a sense of why the speaker got himself in so much trouble by pulling this before the night of new year's day, because of this very reason, he knew there were a number of republicans who were very upset about passing any new government spending without cutting it elsewhere and it's going to play out on the house floor today. >> we're going to talk more about this later. dana bash
, after much prodding, because i'm afraid one day the government may come after me, and i will need to use my assault weapon on u.s. soldiers that are coming to my house. they don't say it exactly that way, but that's what it always boils down to. and that's -- republicans need to understand that at the end of the day, that's just a losing argument. >> well, it's a slippery slope argument. and the danger for that for the nra essentially by saying any gun control is unacceptable, then it puts itself outside the substantive argument, and that's actually a risky strategy. i actually thought yesterday was an interesting day in american politics. i thought it was a really big, bold, comprehensive proposal by the president which is good because it gives you a narrative. if the problems are that big, you actually need a big proposal to match it. it also gives you some room for compromise. there's a great line in robert caro's latest biography of johnson. they're talking about how big to be on civil rights and one of the so-called wise men goes to johnson and basically said that's not practical. i
. a government of and by and for the people. we are responsible for each other. >> that might be the most powerful thing the president said today. we're responsible for each other. parents of the first graders gunned down in newtown show their support for the president today. those parents endured an emotional hearing on policy. he shot every one of these six-year-olds three to 11 times. that wasn't necessary. they didn't have a chance with a semi-automatic weapon. and little six-year-old bodies have no chance. >> tonight, parents with the sandyhook promise say we appreciate the president's decisive action, however, a solution won't just happen in washington. let's turn to dan gross, president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence. dan, good to have you back with us tonight. how satisfied is your organization with what unfolded today? is this what you wanted? >> it's exactly what we wanted. we couldn't be more satisfied as a first step. but what the parents are newtown are saying is exactly right. as the president said himself, if we're going to be able to create change, it's goin
if the scandal implicating top cycling officials inside the international cycling union, the sports' governing body. more on armstrong's latest trouble in a live report from austin, texas. >>> to another developing story this morning in north africa, in algeria, where the fate of several americans remains unknown. they were taken hostage yesterday during an attack by islamic militants. happened at a gas field owned partly by bp. two people have been killed, and there are reports this morning that some of those hostages have escaped. defense secretary leanne pa net leon panetta not mincing words. >> by all indication this is is a terrorist act and the united states strongly condemns these kinds of terrorist acts. it is a very serious matter when americans are taken hostage along with others. >> cnn's dan rivers is in london. dan, there are so many different stories going around that the compound was attacked by the algerian military, that some of the hostages escaped, including one american. what are you hearing? >> well, i'm afraid it is a very confusing picture. the latest line we have from t
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